They're on practically every corner.  Some people feel nervous at the gas pump.  Others are outraged.  Everybody knows prices are going nowhere but up.

 

Did you know a gallon of gas weighs about 6 pounds - or 2.7 kilos?  Almost all of it - 5 pounds, 2.2 kilos - goes straight into the atmosphere as carbon dioxide, out the exhaust pipe.  And that substantial weight, for every additional gallon or liter we burn, remains as CO2 for 100,000 years.

 

Don't believe it?  Stay tuned.  We'll talk with David Archer, a top climate scientist.  He's the author of "The Long Thaw".  That's what we're living in, the time all humans will live in, for ten times the length of all history.  In our second half hour.

 

First, I want to know: when does the oil society seize up?  What happens to the American way of life, if gasoline goes to $7 a gallon?  That's what financial expert Jeff Rubin predicts.  Think that's tough?  What about $20 a gallon?

 

We're going to dive right into an interview with Chris Steiner – and talk $20 a gallon gas.

 

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Remember 4 dollar a gallon gas last year? A lot of us pictured SUV's up on blocks in the driveway - nobody wanted to give half their paycheck to the oil companies.  GM and Chrysler went bankrupt in the exodus from gas guzzlers.

 

Our guest today says you ain't seen nothing yet, the pain at the pump will only get worse.  It seems everybody wants more oil - even if the economy is in the tank.  Did you know China sold more cars than the U.S. last year?  Right now, somebody in India is trying out their first car, and a farmer in Brazil finally got that gas water pump.  The oil economy is slithering around the world - with big implications for our climate and our jobs.

 

Yet the world Energy Agency says we can't get any more production.  In fact, some of America's biggest suppliers are facing declines.  Mexico, America's number two supplier, is struggling to fill budget gaps as the giant Cantarell oil field runs out.  A Houston oil expert says even the Saudi's are struggling to keep up.  It's called Peak Oil, and we're there.

 

Gas prices can only go up.  Is that a looming disaster, or a good thing?

 

Christopher Steiner is senior staff reporter at Forbes magazine.  His new book is Twenty Dollars per Gallon: How the inevitable rise in the price of gasoline will change our lives - for the better. 

 

[Chis Steiner interview 24 min 6 MB]

 

 

Jeff Rubin is on the speech circuit, talking up his new book "Why Your World Is About To Get A Whole Lot Smaller".  Recently he was the top man for CIBC investments - a branch of a ginormous Canadian bank.  Rubin was one of the few who advised clients of the coming crash in real estate prices in America - timely warning that must have saved his clients billions.

 

Now he's worked through an analysis of oil availability, and Jeff Rubin sees major changes coming to our society.  Oil is running out in the major fields, and new sources are more and more expensive to develop.  That's a symptom of Peak Oil.  And, Rubin claims, just the shock of oil hitting almost $150 a barrel - was the real root cause of our current depression.  Suddenly, the far-flung suburbs and the SUV's were doomed.  All the financial towers of wealth built on cheap oil expansion came tumbling down.

 

At the same time, oil producing nations are using more and more of their own production.  Russians, Saudis and Venezuelans are installing their own refineries and chemical industries - and they embrace the car culture.  They nationalized their oil.  Less is available for export.  Some of what's left is in dangerous places.

 

The answer, according to many powerful American institutions and corporations, including the Pentagon - is more oil from the Canadian Tar sands.  The ugliest, most polluting source on the planet.  It takes one barrel of oil equivalent, to make three barrels of tar sands oil.  One fourth of the energy is released into the atmosphere, as global warming gases.

 

But Jeff Rubin, in two speeches I've heard, didn't mention climate change once.  He didn't need to.  The high cost of production, whether it's tar sands or oil miles deep under the Gulf, will keep chopping the carbon economy off at the knees.  Even a weak recovery could stimulate oil demand all over the world.  Get ready for $200 dollar a barrel oil. 

 

Here's a quick clip of Rubin at Speakerspotlight (youtube) on June 24th, 2009:

 

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Jeff Rubin, a Canadian, calls out the Tar Sands as an ecological disaster, and a financial wrecking ball.  For one thing, as you can tell, he doesn't expect the North American car industry to come back, in anything like the same production numbers.

 

The bright side, if you see it that way - is that some industry will return to the U.S. and Canada.  The coming high cost of oil will collapse globalization.  The closed steel mills and machine shops may return to North America, as shipping costs go through the roof.

 

In fact, this big banking financial guru has become a voice for relocalization.  Not as a fad, but as the forced result of declining oil and gas.  Everything, especially food, will take the shortest possible route, with the lowest energy costs.  In a way, the coming high price of oil, painful as it will be, could help right the ship, could help us become productive citizens who know one another.

 

I say, if that prepares us for a low-carbon future, the transition of Peak Oil may help prevent climate catastrophe as well.  The book is "Why Your World Is About To Get A Whole Lot Smaller" by Jeff Rubin.  I've contacted the publisher, to see if we get Jeff on Radio Ecoshock.  He's worth a read and a listen.

 

Meanwhile, let's follow that gallon of gas, from the pump, into eternity.  Dr. David Archer, coming right up.

 

One odd thing about us: humans imagine their legacy.  Think of Stone-henge and the pyramids.  I assumed our lasting sign would be nuclear waste - but it could be the carbon from your last tank of gas.  In fact, our guest, David Archer explains "How Humans Are Changing the Next 100,000 Years of Earth's Climate."

 

Dr. Archer teaches geophysical sciences at the University of Chicago.  In addition to respected scientific papers, he has written a climate primer for students, followed by the award winning book "From Here to Eternity: Global Warming in Geologic Time" published by Princeton University Press in 2008.  Like Alan Robock, our guest next week, David Archer is a frequent contributor to the web's top climate science blog, at realclimate.org.

 

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Then I go into this George Monbiot article, on why the near-term peak of our emission may determine all....

 

There's also a plug for the new movie "The Age of Stupid" opening in a solar powered cinema in New York on September 21st and 2nd.  It hits another 422 movie houses in the U.S. - plus 45 countries around the world.  You can go to the web site www.ageofstupid.net to see where it plays near you - except Canada, where screening rights have not been arranged, for some odd reason!  Canadians are the third highest per capita energy users in the world.

 

That's it for Radio Ecoshock this week.  Next week we wrestle with the demons of geoengineering.  No more blue skies for you.  After decades of denial, the carbon lobby has a plan.  We'll just block out the Sun.  I'll talk with realclimate expert, Dr. Alan Robock, plus Diana Bronson of the ETC Group.  Climate mechanics are ready to use your panic - and you don't need to change a thing.  Drive on out to a brand new world.

 

Don't forget our web site, Ecoshock.org.  You can get our podcast, download all our past shows, plus a bunch of other good green radio.  No ads, no charge.  ecoshock dot org.

 

I'm Alex - thanks for joining us this week.  Let's keep our cool.